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	<title>Comments on: AppArmor now in Ubuntu Feisty</title>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/04/02/apparmor-now-in-ubuntu-feisty/comment-page-1/#comment-1438</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I mistook your comments were directed towards my post. My apologies too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I mistook your comments were directed towards my post. My apologies too.</p>
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		<title>By: Crispin</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/04/02/apparmor-now-in-ubuntu-feisty/comment-page-1/#comment-1437</link>
		<dc:creator>Crispin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies Arun. My comment was really directed at Jef, and others who find AppArmor to be controversial. I suspect most of the controversy comes from SELinux advocates who find it threatening. Truly insecure products do not last long, and any controversy quickly dies away along with the product. AppArmor is 4 years old as a stand-alone product, and 10 years old as a technology. It is not going away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies Arun. My comment was really directed at Jef, and others who find AppArmor to be controversial. I suspect most of the controversy comes from SELinux advocates who find it threatening. Truly insecure products do not last long, and any controversy quickly dies away along with the product. AppArmor is 4 years old as a stand-alone product, and 10 years old as a technology. It is not going away.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/04/02/apparmor-now-in-ubuntu-feisty/comment-page-1/#comment-1293</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say it&#039;s insecure anywhere in my post. I wrote, there were lot of discussions going on about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s insecure anywhere in my post. I wrote, there were lot of discussions going on about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Crispin Cowan</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/04/02/apparmor-now-in-ubuntu-feisty/comment-page-1/#comment-1288</link>
		<dc:creator>Crispin Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling a security system &quot;very insecure&quot; is slander, similar to calling someone a child abuser. So far, the claims that AppArmor is &quot;very insecure&quot; all amount to FUD, because they are too vague to actually come to a vulnerability, or they are factually incorrect. Erich&#039;s blog is mostly factually incorrect, and I have posted a rebuttal there.

Try AppArmor, see if you like it. If you don&#039;t like it, then don&#039;t use it. But don&#039;t call it &quot;insecure&quot; unless you can substantiate that claim. AppArmor has had one security advisory in 4 years, I think it is pretty secure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling a security system &#8220;very insecure&#8221; is slander, similar to calling someone a child abuser. So far, the claims that AppArmor is &#8220;very insecure&#8221; all amount to FUD, because they are too vague to actually come to a vulnerability, or they are factually incorrect. Erich&#8217;s blog is mostly factually incorrect, and I have posted a rebuttal there.</p>
<p>Try AppArmor, see if you like it. If you don&#8217;t like it, then don&#8217;t use it. But don&#8217;t call it &#8220;insecure&#8221; unless you can substantiate that claim. AppArmor has had one security advisory in 4 years, I think it is pretty secure.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/04/02/apparmor-now-in-ubuntu-feisty/comment-page-1/#comment-1246</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh! I didn&#039;t use AppArmor much, so I&#039;m not sure how secure it is. Hmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh! I didn&#8217;t use AppArmor much, so I&#8217;m not sure how secure it is. Hmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: jef</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/04/02/apparmor-now-in-ubuntu-feisty/comment-page-1/#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator>jef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>App Armor is very very insecure

http://blog.drinsama.de/erich/en/linux/selinux/2007040302-ubuntu-gets-apparmor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>App Armor is very very insecure</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.drinsama.de/erich/en/linux/selinux/2007040302-ubuntu-gets-apparmor" rel="nofollow">http://blog.drinsama.de/erich/en/linux/selinux/2007040302-ubuntu-gets-apparmor</a></p>
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		<title>By: Planète Béranger: Open Source and Strong Opinions</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/04/02/apparmor-now-in-ubuntu-feisty/comment-page-1/#comment-1283</link>
		<dc:creator>Planète Béranger: Open Source and Strong Opinions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->really that weak; or maybe SELinux is the best choice anyway; or maybe it is bad because it&#8217;s coming from Novell, and then it&#8217;s a political issue?!  Fact is that AppArmor entered Ubuntu Feisty&#8217;s &#8220;universe&#8221; [1] [2], and rebuttals are already here.  Erich Schubert starts the docudrama: «Ubuntu got AppArmor support. This is bad news. AppArmor is a weak design. IMHO it gives the users a false impression of security<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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