Comments on: (K)Ubuntu to OpenSuSe – My Experience http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/ Arun Subramanian's Blog Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:52:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Dr John http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-5303 Dr John Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:41:53 +0000 http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/#comment-5303 Thank you for all the information guys :) I too am switching from Ubuntu to openSuse because it is impossible to use my Intel wireless (BG2200 ipw2200) with Ubuntu. The list of complaints from users is long but the kernel and package maintainers are not listening. So, I downloaded openSuse 10.3 beta1 and hope for a better experience than with Ubuntu. Also, OpenOffice "Base" is not fully functioning in Ubuntu as the form wizzard is not working. I really hope that openSuse will be the answer to my problems because Ubuntu is not. Thank you for all the information guys :)
I too am switching from Ubuntu to openSuse because it is impossible to use my Intel wireless (BG2200 ipw2200) with Ubuntu. The list of complaints from users is long but the kernel and package maintainers are not listening.
So, I downloaded openSuse 10.3 beta1 and hope for a better experience than with Ubuntu. Also, OpenOffice “Base” is not fully functioning in Ubuntu as the form wizzard is not working.
I really hope that openSuse will be the answer to my problems because Ubuntu is not.

]]> By: Arun http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-744 Arun Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:48:29 +0000 http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/#comment-744 What you said about YAST is true. It's a pain to install a program since the refresh takes a long time. How do I disable the refresh? I'll give it a try. I'll surely check the opensuse community site. I remember installing libdvdcss2, but still opensuse didn't play my dvd. I'll check it again. What you said about YAST is true. It’s a pain to install a program since the refresh takes a long time. How do I disable the refresh? I’ll give it a try.
I’ll surely check the opensuse community site. I remember installing libdvdcss2, but still opensuse didn’t play my dvd. I’ll check it again.

]]> By: Bichi http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-703 Bichi Fri, 09 Mar 2007 12:52:25 +0000 http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/#comment-703 openSUSE doesn't include proprietary drivers by default - they are contained in add on repositories. That's why the ATI (or NVIDIA, for that matter) drivers won't be automatically installed. Funnily enough, this was actually a Novell decision taken at 10.1 YaST can be very annoying sometimes - especially when it constantly asks for the DVD. This is because there are two settings per repository (remember, the DVD is also a repository just like the online update repositories). You can activate/deactivate the repository itself and you can activate/deactivate refreshing the repository. If the repository is set to refresh, then YaST will take ages every time you want to install or modify a single package, because it checks the entire repository for changes. There is a new community website called www.opensuse-community.org. This is not affiliated with Novell and aims to provide new users with all needed information - such as installing the patent-encumbered codecs (also not included in openSUSE per default), how to enable DVD (libdvdcss is not included) and other issues like proprietary binary drivers and Microsoft TrueType fonts. openSUSE is a really cool distribution - there is quite a bit of functionality left out for legal reasons, which normally put a damper on new user's experience with it. The openSUSE community has taken a big hit in credibility because of the Novell Microsoft deal, but I think this was quite unfair - nobody knew about the deal until it was through. Anyway, check out opensuse-community.org and opensuse.org and you should be able to find all the information you need. openSUSE doesn’t include proprietary drivers by default – they are contained in add on repositories. That’s why the ATI (or NVIDIA, for that matter) drivers won’t be automatically installed. Funnily enough, this was actually a Novell decision taken at 10.1

YaST can be very annoying sometimes – especially when it constantly asks for the DVD. This is because there are two settings per repository (remember, the DVD is also a repository just like the online update repositories). You can activate/deactivate the repository itself and you can activate/deactivate refreshing the repository. If the repository is set to refresh, then YaST will take ages every time you want to install or modify a single package, because it checks the entire repository for changes.

There is a new community website called http://www.opensuse-community.org. This is not affiliated with Novell and aims to provide new users with all needed information – such as installing the patent-encumbered codecs (also not included in openSUSE per default), how to enable DVD (libdvdcss is not included) and other issues like proprietary binary drivers and Microsoft TrueType fonts.

openSUSE is a really cool distribution – there is quite a bit of functionality left out for legal reasons, which normally put a damper on new user’s experience with it. The openSUSE community has taken a big hit in credibility because of the Novell Microsoft deal, but I think this was quite unfair – nobody knew about the deal until it was through.

Anyway, check out opensuse-community.org and opensuse.org and you should be able to find all the information you need.

]]> By: Arun http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-667 Arun Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:04:50 +0000 http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/#comment-667 Thank you for the suggestions. The repos I added were from Additional YAST package repositories as stated above. I don't know which one screwed up my installation. As I wrote, If you are used to YAST, then it's pretty easy to use, but since I'm used to Synaptic, it'll take some time for me to get used to YAST. How do I install ATI drivers during the OS installation? I tried changing the video driver during the installation and didn't get any option. SuSe detected my Acer laptop as samsung monitor and installed the generic driver. Thank you for the suggestions. The repos I added were from Additional YAST package repositories as stated above. I don’t know which one screwed up my installation. As I wrote, If you are used to YAST, then it’s pretty easy to use, but since I’m used to Synaptic, it’ll take some time for me to get used to YAST.

How do I install ATI drivers during the OS installation? I tried changing the video driver during the installation and didn’t get any option. SuSe detected my Acer laptop as samsung monitor and installed the generic driver.

]]> By: Miguel http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-663 Miguel Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:47:47 +0000 http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/#comment-663 You had serious problems with Suse. What repos did you add?. One must be very careful with that!. If you followed exactly the opensuse.org recomendations (hacking suse is a good guide) you shouldn't had nothing of that. I've done it a couple of times and Suse were always stable (I'm actually updating even KDE , OOo and mozilla products through repos). I've used opensuse from 10.0 and YAST has been for me simply great. I haven't used Ubuntu for a long time so I don't know how synaptic really works and I cannot compare, but YAST is pretty effective. You type, you mark and you're done. Just one advice, if you try again make sure you install everything you are going to need during the OS intallation; this includes ATI drivers, flash and so on. Then configure the official repos (jand you have and entry for that in system>software!) and add Guru's and Packman. Go to opensuse.org and opensuse-community.org. It's suse bible!. You had serious problems with Suse. What repos did you add?. One must be very careful with that!. If you followed exactly the opensuse.org recomendations (hacking suse is a good guide) you shouldn’t had nothing of that. I’ve done it a couple of times and Suse were always stable (I’m actually updating even KDE , OOo and mozilla products through repos).

I’ve used opensuse from 10.0 and YAST has been for me simply great. I haven’t used Ubuntu for a long time so I don’t know how synaptic really works and I cannot compare, but YAST is pretty effective. You type, you mark and you’re done. Just one advice, if you try again make sure you install everything you are going to need during the OS intallation; this includes ATI drivers, flash and so on. Then configure the official repos (jand you have and entry for that in system>software!) and add Guru’s and Packman.

Go to opensuse.org and opensuse-community.org. It’s suse bible!.

]]> By: Arun http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-661 Arun Thu, 08 Mar 2007 04:01:15 +0000 http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/#comment-661 Thanks for the info. I'll try to use opensuse until Kubuntu Feisty final is released and then install Kubuntu along with the kickoff package. Thanks for the info again. Thanks for the info. I’ll try to use opensuse until Kubuntu Feisty final is released and then install Kubuntu along with the kickoff package. Thanks for the info again.

]]> By: Sak http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-660 Sak Thu, 08 Mar 2007 03:54:17 +0000 http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/#comment-660 I also like the new style SuSE Kickoff menu, but didn't particularly like SuSE after using it for a variety of reasons. The good news is there is a Kubuntu Kickoff package. There's a Softpedia article about it (with a nice demo of it in Kubuntu), a link to the download, and instructions for installing it: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Kickoff-KDE-Menu-in-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-46601.shtml If you don't like the default icon used (not a very good quality Kubuntu gears icon), there are a variety of replacements on KDE-Look.org. My favorite and the one I'm using now is this aqua / blue colored K which is animated when you hover over it: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=53432 I also like the new style SuSE Kickoff menu, but didn’t particularly like SuSE after using it for a variety of reasons. The good news is there is a Kubuntu Kickoff package. There’s a Softpedia article about it (with a nice demo of it in Kubuntu), a link to the download, and instructions for installing it:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Kickoff-KDE-Menu-in-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-46601.shtml

If you don’t like the default icon used (not a very good quality Kubuntu gears icon), there are a variety of replacements on KDE-Look.org. My favorite and the one I’m using now is this aqua / blue colored K which is animated when you hover over it:

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=53432

]]> By: Arun http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-659 Arun Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:01:56 +0000 http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/#comment-659 Thanks for your suggestion. I'll give it a try when I get time. Thanks for your suggestion. I’ll give it a try when I get time.

]]> By: Otto Mann http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-657 Otto Mann Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:51:46 +0000 http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/#comment-657 Since you are a KDE user that likes simple elegance and the SUSE menu, might I recommend Sabayon Linux. Version 3.3 should be out in the next week and will have all the functionality you desire in addition to gentoo's portage. Just my two cents. automan Since you are a KDE user that likes simple elegance and the SUSE menu, might I recommend Sabayon Linux. Version 3.3 should be out in the next week and will have all the functionality you desire in addition to gentoo’s portage.

Just my two cents.

automan

]]> By: Boycott Novell http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-955 Boycott Novell Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/03/07/kubuntu-to-opensuse-my-experience/#comment-955 <!--%kramer-pre%-->t take pleasure in seeing Opensuse sinking in reviews while Ubuntu trumps many of its rivals, it does make you think. Ubuntu becomes the codebase of many other Linux distributions. Here is yet another reminder that Opensuse needs to get its act together fast. It is no longer the distribution of choice, which is a status it could probably boast a couple of years ago. (K)Ubuntu to OpenSuSe - My Experience Installing softwares. YAST is not easy to use if you are used to apt-get or synaptic. With Ubuntu,<!--%kramer-post%--> t take pleasure in seeing Opensuse sinking in reviews while Ubuntu trumps many of its rivals, it does make you think. Ubuntu becomes the codebase of many other Linux distributions. Here is yet another reminder that Opensuse needs to get its act together fast. It is no longer the distribution of choice, which is a status it could probably boast a couple of years ago. (K)Ubuntu to OpenSuSe – My Experience Installing softwares. YAST is not easy to use if you are used to apt-get or synaptic. With Ubuntu,

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